Battlegroup kursk vs flames of war

A new and innovative games system for recreating the epic battles around kursk in 1943 on the eastern front. I had been looking forward to playing this set of rules since their release late last year and having played an earlier reincarnation kampfgruppe normandy. Ive been a fan of the battlegroup wwii rules since i first picked up the kursk book back in 2012, i now own all 5 of the supplements and think the rules are some of the best out there. Bolt action if you want to get something that isnt 28mm or as fiddly as fow then go for the middle ground of 2025mm figures, they are your airfixplastic soldier company. The battle of kursk was a second world war engagement between german and soviet forces on the eastern front near kursk 450 kilometres or 280 miles southwest of moscow in the soviet union, during july and august 1943. Battlegroup is the plastic soldier companys entry into the wwii gaming system. These fast, fun and authenticfeeling rules, written by veteran games designer warwick kinrade author of kampfgruppe normandie, are designed to play at 15mm and 20mm 172nd scales. The battle began with the launch of the german offensive operation citadel german. The rulebook was originally published as a small paperback book distributed with the battlegroup kursk theatre book.

Played 15mm game using battlegroup kursk rules we both acquired some months ago. So i purchased the rulebook and the kursk supplement how appropriate. Moving into 15mm pure tactical miniature games, flames of war. Soviet forces flames of war and battlegroup public group. I need some help getting started with flames of waralready have the pattons eagles us starter box by. This time we decided to play a much smaller game, at the platoon level, and to use the army lists rather then trying one of the provided historical scenarios. Im not a fan of bolt action, feels too much like 40k, and not enough like a historical miniature game. Andy and i played our first game of battlegroup kursk bgk at the club in midapril. Battlegroup kursk thoughts and first game posted on june 24, 2017 by mellis1644 well last week i tried a new game to me battlegroup kursk, and so i thought id do a quick write up of it plus add my thoughts about the game. We play on a 6x4 table in 15mm scale with units based on mainly flames of war sized stands so i had to add a few separate german lmg teams that bgk requires. We recently play lots of battlegroup kursk bgk games and i needed to adjust my flames of war set of minis to fit bgk rosters. This is a battlegroup kursk game with soviet infantry and t34s taking on a mixed bag of panzergrenadiers, stugs and panzer ivs. Here you can find information on the entire range of flames of war miniatures, rules and accessories, as well as event information, gaming news and hobby tips these past few months have been an unsettling time for.

Battlegroup kursk morale deck download as pdf file. Just about any 15mm or 20mm miniatures will work, along with terrain. For our first game using battlegroup kursk, paul b kindly lent me his russians to pitch against the germans borrowed from casey v. Battlegroup tobruk goes strong into the desert pavlovs dogs, famously, were conditioned to salivate when hearing a bell which they associated with food. We both got the rules in december last year but this was the first opportunity to play it. Unternehmen zitadelle, on 5 july, which had the objective of pinching off the kursk salient. Flames of war abbreviated as fow is a world war ii tabletop miniatures wargame produced. I think battlegroup are more simulation, less game than them. Then i am joined by cohost mike hobbs and we look indepth at the rules. Just a quick update on whats going on in the command bunker. For those of us that know and love battlegroup we have all encountered the phase where we ask what the f.

Divisions across a series of scenarios or a short campaign the inglorious 12th july for the. Ive got two mates who are trying to tempt me into ww2 gaming. On a 2 or less most units will break outright if they are pinned. The salient was a bulge in the soviet lines that stretched 150 miles 240 km from north to south and protruded 100. Everyday low prices and free delivery on eligible orders. Written by warwick kinrade, the rules system is a tight. The rules were written by warwick kinrade, with assistance from piers brand. Many of the aspects i have highlighted are easily changed with house rule adaptions. It was steves first game of this, and my first game using the full battlegroup rules for probably well.

Join me for a look at the rulebook for battlegroup a world war ii tabletop miniatures game by iron fist publishing. Battlegroup wwii data cards musings of the welsh wizzard. Battlegroup wwii data cards written by mikeh, july 29, 2016, comments off. Battlegroup kursk is the much anticipated set of world war ii rules published by the plastic soldier company. The first bookset of rules was called battlegroup kursk. Ive read the rules, but cant play a game for another month. Feb 17, 2016 flames of war 20 scottish flames of war masters. I dont want anything overly complicated, and i do think wargaming is a game not a simulation, but with some sense of realism. We use a red marker to denote a units order is complete, green for on ambush fire, blue for on reserve move, yellow for pinned, and a white. This group serves as a resource for the player base of the battlegroup ww2 wargame. This was the second outing for my early war german infantry, although the pz ivs and tigers were on their first tabletop appearance, so have broken their beginners curse. We agreed to see the basics of the aimed fire and tried to play the game in a slow tempo because it was only our second battle.

In this show, i take an indepth look at the new world war ii rules from iron fist publishing and the plastic soldier company. When the battle of kursk opened on 5th july 1943, the germans in this. It was also the first time i had been at the local club since 1995 playing dbm, and the first time since, i think, 2005 that i have played a ww2 game face to face. Battlegroup qrs visit for the history and stay for the. Im new to wargaming and im thinking of buying either flames of war or battlegroup kursk. The official battlegroup ww2 wargame rules group has 4,647 members. They are written by warwick kinrade, who is perhaps most well known as the author of the kampfgruppe normandie rules from warhammer historical. If there is something you want to know or see, just let me know and ill try to answer it for you. So we have organized up the first scenario in the book, a piece of the battle of prokhorovka, which is itself a part of the battle of kursk.

Soviet forces flames of war and battlegroup has 1,078 members. One of the innovations introduced in this game is the mechanic of drawing chits for army morale. As with many of our games, we need to pool our resources, particularly when setting up a larger game for 46 players. The game category, for me includes rules such as flames of war and bolt action. If you have listened to epsiode 96 of the podcast, you will know that mike hobbs and i were both pretty impressed with battlegroup kursk, the new rules from plastic soldier company and iron fist publishing. These issues with the rules have caused me to think of battlegroup more as a game than a simulation. Read online barthilas battle group kursk pdf battlegroup kursk vs flames of war. Review a switchers guide to battlegroup wwii tabletop wargame. Ive got big soviet and german armies in 15mm for flames of war. Review a switchers guide to battlegroup wwii tabletop. We play in both 15mm and 28mm but the author plays in 20mm and i have heard wild stories of both 6mm and 54mm with no scale conversations. Battlegroup historical rules for wwii visit for the. Battlegroup rulesets 10 products found you are on page 1 of 1. The official battlegroup ww2 wargame rules group public.

Battlegroup kursk aar germans vs russians hi folks, long time no battle report from me. Ghost panzers released in early 2019, covers german forces during the battle of kursk 1943. Yesterday i managed the short drive over to my miniature modelling madness buddy steve for a game of battlegroup. From my understanding battlegroup kursk was the first set of rules released. With bolt action and flames of war being so well supported, there are. This piece originally appeared on and is being reprinted here as part of an ongoing look at the battlegroup game system.

Our 15mm battle was a mashup of game systems, using flames of war models, i aint been shot mum rules and a scenario lifted from the battlegroup kursk book by iron fist publishing. Psc and battlefront flames of war shermans with 4ground scenery. In the kursk saliant battle group kursk yesterday at the club we played a game of battlegroup kursk. I setup table and we used one of the generic meeting engagement scenarios with 650pts each a platoon sized game. Ive played battlegroup kursk once, and if i recall they are coming out with another set of battlegroup rules for the western theater, but i could be mistaken. The rules are written as the first of several books, each concentrating on. I was looking for a 15mm compatible ruleset for ww2 and found battlegroup kursk. Battlegroup qrs most of you know how important a quick reference sheet is to keep a game moving forward and helping new players adapt to the rule set. Battle of kursk, july 5august 23, 1943, unsuccessful german assault on the soviet salient around the city of kursk, in western russia, during world war ii. Page rules read this first before posting 1this page is designed to specifically. Scenario allows one player after dicing to pick a corner to deploy from with other player deploying from opposite corner unit arrival staggered. Just in case you didnt fancy cutting up your battlegroup.

One plays flames of war, the other battlegroup kursk. Battle report battlegroup kursk overlord ok so wargames wednesday is starting back up again, so we decided to give the battlegroup rules another shot. With a few of the guys having mid and latewar ww ii germans and soviets, bg. The rules are a lovely 170page hardcover book including the rules of play and. Rather than strike all across the front like they had in 1941 or only in the centre and.

Play revolves around companylevel tactics, with each stand or element representing an infantry fireteam. Battle report battlegroup kursk so this past friday we had our bimonthly club meeting, and serge wanted to try out a game of the battlegroup rules for ww2. Battlegroup kursk 15mm aar last thursday john, christopher and vaggelis had a tank battle and here is the aar of it. Battlegroup is a set of world war ii miniatures rules published by ironfist publishing, a small independent publisher, which are available through plastic soldier company in the uk. Battlegroup is published by ironfist publishing and is distributed by plastic soldier company psc. Battlegroup kursk thoughts and first game adventures. This website uses cookies to ensure it delivers the best web experience for you. Quite a simple table with some low hills, woods and a. This is the first of a series looking at the battlegroup wargaming rules. The plastic soldier company world war two 108,2,0,1. Aside from its own set of tabletop rules, the battlegroup kursk book offers some welldrawn scenarios easily adaptable to a variety of gaming systems and scales. Our units are one squad 1 stand based on mainly flames of war sized stands so that will help. By using this website you agree to our use of cookies. The russians are from wills collection and the germans are steve hanns.